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Permanent beds for each veg? - Veggie - 05-04-2026
Next daft question
I don't know about you, obviously, but I have never followed any of the soil rotation plans - where a specific group of veg move to another area each year - the theory being that each veg benefits from whatever was grown there in the previous year. Don't expect me to explain it as its beyond me!
I've realised that I always grow beans in the same place - always grow peas in their own place, every year - because that's where the supports are.
Perennial vegetables - leeks, kale etc stay put and seem to thrive. ...............
.........So, why, are we advised to grow annual leeks and brassicas in a different place every year?
You can probably see where I'm going with this
........to create permanent "beds" for each veg that I grow. It would have the added benefit that self seeders would be in the right place to grow, year on year.
RE: Permanent beds for each veg? - Vinny - 05-04-2026
I like your thinking Veggie. I have grown onions leeks and garlic in the same beds for a number of years. The only thing that would change this is if my crops started to diminish or if I got something like onion white rot in any of them?
Same for brassicaas if I get clubroot.I had some plants a few years ago with clubroot in one of my beds, so don't plant brassicas there and don't know whether it's still there or not?
Peas and beans are fine in the same place with permanent supports but i would open trench at end of season and fill with vegetable waste, closing trench prior to planting.
I'm not saying full crop rotation has no benefit but is mainly aimed at a larger scale than most gardeners gardens or allotments? If I do have a poor crop in one of my beds one year., I will try and not follow with like for like the following year, but this rarely happens and I tend to forget what was there lasrt year anyway!
RE: Permanent beds for each veg? - Veggie - 05-04-2026
Just thinking about this. A permanent carrot bed would be stone free. A brassica bed would be netted.
RE: Permanent beds for each veg? - Small chilli - 05-04-2026
I was big on the crop rotation. But now I’m thinking a happy middle ground would suit me better. I agree carrots in the same bed and beans with their permanent climbing frames. Perennial veg definitely stays in the same place. Other roots/ onions/ brassicas I think I might still move around. I’ll be growing a lot more inside so I won’t have as much stuff to move around anyway. Also still going to do a lot of companion planting. This at times confused the rotation.
RE: Permanent beds for each veg? - JJB - 05-04-2026
I have no idea whether rotation helps but have always shuffled stuff around.
I've 2 big patches each get divided into two. Each section has a different crop each year. A) Kale/broccoli/carrots (all netted), B) DFB/CFB/peas, C) onions, D) beetroot/chard (also netted against leaf miner). Corn and courgettes and any leftovers or experiments go in the centre areas.
The gh's always have toms grown in the borders. Every so often I replace the soil to refresh it.
RE: Permanent beds for each veg? - Bren - 06-04-2026
I move brassicas along to the next bed everything else just gets planted in a different place from the previous year.